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26 January 2010 - 7:33pm
I posted this a while back when I had just finished a 1st draft of it, called "Zion", so here is the finished (hopefully) version. Still haven't recorded electric guitar and drums...so its sounding a bit empty at the moment, but thought I had better get some more feedback on it before getting people to record those bits and then having to re-record if it needed changing!
Verse 1
When joy seems lost, and tears flow like rivers
When hope seems gone, and love has disappeared
There is a light, thats shining in the darkness
There is a hope that will never fail
Verse 2
When all songs are sung, and their words have lost meaning
We will join as one, to lift up Your name
Though all might seem lost, I know I have a future
My future is Yours, Your the one that I want
Chorus
We will enter Your Kingdom singing
Singing songs of praise, how great is Your name
Everlasting joy will crown our heads
Sorrow and sighing will flee away
From You
Verse 3
In my life, there seem so many questions
Answers unknown, or so it may seem
There is one, who holds me in His hands
There is one, who has so many plans
Bridge
I may not know what the future holds
But I know the One that holds the future in His hands
He holds my future in His hands
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30 January 2010 - 11:38pm
any feedback before i do a final recording?
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Hey Jamie, liking this, sounds like a great song for reflective worship. Seeing as you are going to do a full recording I reckon there are a couple of minor things you could do which might make it complete.
For the fist two lines, replacing one of the 'seems' with a similar word would be good as it would take out the repetition. You also have a similar line in the second verse where it goes 'though all might seem lost', just a reshaping of those three uses would definitely help.
The last line of the chorus, for me, doesn't seem to quite fit with the rest of it, I think perhaps because the rest of the song is all about what things we will experience and then that last line is about Jesus/God. Also i think it wants to match the first two lines of the chorus, so maybe something along the lines of 'and all sorrow and sighing will flee away, we will be home'. There are so many better things than the one I just said, but hopefully you understand the kind of thing i mean!
The final thing I would say is that perhaps the bridge could do with another line in it? I think just because of the layout of the rest of the song.
Hope some of this helps, if it doesnt or if you disagree please ignore it! Good luck with the recording, would be cool to hear it when you have the full band sound backing you up too. Take care man!
Hey Jamie, liking this, sounds like a great song for reflective worship. Seeing as you are going to do a full recording I reckon there are a couple of minor things you could do which might make it complete.
For the fist two lines, replacing one of the 'seems' with a similar word would be good as it would take out the repetition. You also have a similar line in the second verse where it goes 'though all might seem lost', just a reshaping of those three uses would definitely help.
The last line of the chorus, for me, doesn't seem to quite fit with the rest of it, I think perhaps because the rest of the song is all about what things we will experience and then that last line is about Jesus/God. Also i think it wants to match the first two lines of the chorus, so maybe something along the lines of 'and all sorrow and sighing will flee away, we will be home'. There are so many better things than the one I just said, but hopefully you understand the kind of thing i mean!
The final thing I would say is that perhaps the bridge could do with another line in it? I think just because of the layout of the rest of the song.
Hope some of this helps, if it doesnt or if you disagree please ignore it! Good luck with the recording, would be cool to hear it when you have the full band sound backing you up too. Take care man!
sorrry didn't mean to write that twice, now i don't know how to get rid of it...
sorrry didn't mean to write that twice, now i don't know how to get rid of it...
haha sorry!
thanks for the feedback, will look more into those things, ta.
Jamie
Hi Jamie,
I really like the feel of this song, I like the space you've created and particularly like the "real life" sounds you've included in there.
At the risk of making myself very unpopular, however, I feel that the lyrics could be stronger. Nothing you have said in the song is wrong, however, it has all been said before, in almost exactly the same words. It feels to me like a long list of clichés... You are clearly a gifted musician and the song is good, so it seems a shame to use tired language which detracts from the musicality of the song.
Some examples of what I mean:
"flow like rivers" - both tears and justice always seem to flow like rivers. Is there another way of saying this?
"There is a light, thats shining in the darkness" - Almost identical to Martin Smith's "There is a light, that shines in the darkness"
"When all songs are sung," this line seems to have been used before, along with "all words have been said" etc. Similar in sentiment to "when the music fades"...
I find the chorus confusing thematically. Are you referring to Heaven, or God's Kingdom on Earth? Also not sure what "crowning our heads with joy" means?
Another thing to consider is the person in which the song is written, i.e. the verses are in first person singular ( I ) and the chorus is in first person plural (we). The song would work better if both verses and chorus were either all WE or all I.
Anyhow, as I said, I like the feel and sound of the song. Lyrically the sentiment is fine, however I feel the lyrics could be improved.
I look forward to hearing it when it is finished.
God bless,
Alex
Hi Alex, thanks for the feedback. I will look at the lyrics, I get where your coming from as in "it has all been said before", I do think that there are only certain ways of saying some things though, e.g. "There is a light thats shining in the darkness", because God is the light, maybe I could use different imagery here though to say the same kinda thing...will look at it though.
Regarding the chorus, it is meant at Gods Kingdom in general, so whatever people want to interpret it as, as I know people with different beliefs, the general view (the one that I would also hold to), is that we will end up in Heaven, which is Gods Kingdom, or I know others that we will end up on the new earth (new heavens/earth that is talked about in Revelation.) The whole of the chorus comes from Isaiah 51:11 "The ransomed of the Lord will return. They will enter Zion with singing, everlasting joy will crown their heads. Gladness and joy will overtake them, and sorrow and sighing will flee away."
Thanks again
Jamie





