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2 July 2009 - 3:42pm
Hello!
It's been a while since I've been on this forum but I wanted to get some feedback on a song I'm co-writing with a friend of mine called Bryony. I'd like an honest opinion of whether it works congregationally, etc.
The lyrics are not finished on the recording (I need a second verse), so thus far they are:
V:
Praise awaits You in this place O God
We draw near to Your temple
To Your holy house – to dwell in Your court
Let the sound of praises thus ring out
As we come into Your presence
Seeking Your face – Knowing Your grace
Seeing Your power O God
Chorus:
Shout with joy all the earth!
Make His praises glorious
Tell the wonders of His worth
Sing for joy all the church
Say, how awesome are His deeds,
Come and bow before His glorious majesty
B:
Great is the Lord our God
Great is the Lord our God
Great is the Lord our God
All of the earth rejoice!
Words & Music by Nick Law & Bryony Wells
(c) 2009 Crookes Sound. All rights reserved.
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3 July 2009 - 12:43pm
Hey Nick,
I think this a song with potential so definitely keep going with this.
Something that immediately stood out to me was the metre of the words in the first part of the verse. In my opinion it seems a little complicated for a congregational song if I'm honest, and it's accentuated by not having any drums in there too. I think it's great and I really like it, it's just whether a congregation would be able to pick it up or not is what I'm wondering.
Potentially being a bit picky, but I'm just wondering if there is any other word or phrase you could use to avoid saying 'thus ring out'. I'm in no way anti old-school words (in fact I have championed them before on this forum) but in this case it just doesn't quite sit right with me.
And one other small thought I had was the opening line 'praise awaits...' Now I know that just because Redman, Hughes, Tomlin etc. write a line, it shouldn't mean that that line is then void and unusable for any other songwriter of any "status". However, it does use the same function as Redman's song to 'open up the song' if you see what I mean.
Completely my thoughts off the top of my head, and I know frustrating it is when you come across something that is good or works, and someone else has already done it, so feel free to disagree with any of it mate! :-)
So yeah, everything else is great and as I say, definitely keep going with it.
Sim
p.s. also, i was checking out what you guys have done with your new worship website down at Crookes. Really like it, well laid out, and must be a very helpful resource for the church and all it's worship teams - good work!
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Hi Nick.
I absolutely love this and really look forward to the finished product! Please keep going with it!
I did funnily enough have all three of Sim's thoughts enter my mind as I listened to it the first time so there are probably things to think about there. But I softened on all three by the end of my second listening! :-) I think a few words could be stripped out of the verse to make it simpler to sing. eg. having the second line mirror exactly the melody of the first FIVE notes of the first line only, eg "We draw near to You" to give space to breathe. And maybe "Let the sound of praises ALL ring out" could work instead, or something other?
Only a couple of wee things to chuck in. My small mind got slightly confused in the first line over where "in this place" actually was. Inside or outside the temple? In truth, both I suppose, but I think the trouble is that those lines describe movement, travel towards the temple, so the singers of praise will likely not be "in THIS place" for very much longer?
Can't wait to hear the full song. Thanks man. :-)
Mart
hi nick,
good song idea here, v faithful to the psalm.
the guys above have given you some good ideas, i was gonna say the same about the thus line, it just seems a bit out of place really.
i also wander how relevant a word like 'temple' is in todays society? its not wrong or non biblical but would the average church member understand what they were saying?
the line praise awaits you in this place, i know matt redman did the same thing, but for me its not that faithful to the psalm seeing as it says praise awaits you in zion. i dont know whether redman or this lyric has interpretted that correctly? or could it be me?!!
the other thing that i think you could look at is how the verses are sang to GOd in the first person and the rest of the song is about God in the 3rd person. i think the song would be stronger all in one tense.
i also dont know whether 'wonders of his worth' is as strong a line as it could be?
keep working on it,. you have huge gifts.
God bless,
gav.
Thanks for your comment, I'm going to rewrite the weak bits in the verse and change the chorus ever so slightly. Will post a new copy when I have done.
Sim, thanks for the encouragement about the website. You never really know who looks at these sites when you build them so it's good to see words has spread.
www.stthomascrookes.org/worship for anyone else who is interested.
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