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hey guys and girls first post on these forums so HI!!!!
I went to soul survivor week C and spoke to tim hughes about my plight for sax music n the last night, he said everyone here was pretty awesome so i decided to come on over and test you all out.
i've been playing in my church worship group for just over 2 years and been playing Eb alto sax for coming up to 10 years now. what i have been doing over the past 3 years is looking at the guitar chords in music books like the soul survivor chord book. however i have been invited to join my mates worship band which does a lot more new and exciting pieces, as a result i need to step up my game a little and find more exciting riffs which don't need transposing as my brain often dsnt work fast enough to transpose and play some of the faster boppier songs.
in closing this post is just a massive request that if anyone had any clue as to where one could find decent sax worship music books they would have my eternal thanks and love.
tar lots
matt
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Hi.
Welcome to the joys of the transposing instrument. There a re one or two things which may help out here. Firstly, if you want to go down the licks route, then learnig them in all 12 keys is probably the best solution. If the band you are working with are using only a few keys then learn the licks in the keys they use. (Once you have transposed from concert!)
There are other spproaches which may be more helpful though. Firstly, you can learn to read in concert. It will be weird to start with but it is possible to learn to read directly in concert without the need to transpose in your head. In other words, practice with concert music until your fingers associate written F with the fingering you know know as D and so on. I read in concert for alto and for tenor/soprano. It means that I have two sets of fingerings but it is so much easier for wosrhip.
The other thing is to develop your ear and to practice finding lines which you can play without need ing to think about keys. Almost all worship songs are diatonic. That is, they only use the notes from the scale of the key signature. (Sorry if you know all this). IF a song is diatonic then you have 8 notes to work in which all sound fine. Practice playing along to songs so that your fingers can find lines without needing to think about where will work. The pentatonic scale is really good fro this too.
I am not aware of specific books for worship on the sax but there are plenty of basic jazz theory books and exercise whichmay help you out. Let me know if you want some titles.
Above all, develop your ears and vocabulary by listening to as much varied music as you can. The more variety you listen to, the more stuff you can draw on when playing.
Good luck.
i have a transposition chart that i use... you can email me and i'll attach it to you in reply if you'd like- i just make lyric sheets and write the chords for sax on them... just go up 6 semitones or down 3. :-)
i know your frustration - i'm also an alto player. :-)
Seemed to miss this topic when it first came out!
I don't play sax (or any instrument other than those in C) so though I can't relate directly I totally see where you're coming from - I'm often asked to transpose something on keys because it's too high / low for whoever's singing.
You could of course look for a specific worship book for sax, you could spend ages writing things out for yourself - but I'd suggest that the best route would be to train your ear so you can transpose at sight. I know that's far easier said than done and it'll take a while, but long term it'll be an absolutely invaluable skill and save you a lot of time in the long run writing things out / transposing them beforehand.
Hey guys
I am a tenor player and this may seem like the most simple advise but I would try as much as possible to stay clear of using books and instead learn the notes in each key. So you know what notes would be in the key of A for example, and the worship leader turns round and shouts A at you, you can just rock out.
I find it can be really freeing to just improvise and use instruments such as the sax to just worship God.
Hope this helps
Just to mention regarding about transposition. There is a programme call Sibelius which is a fantastic way of being able to "literally" copy the notation of a piece and transpose it to the key which one will need so for example, if I wanted to transpose Tim's 'Beautiful One' I would (note that this only referring to the keys I have from Survivor Songbook 3) I would transpose it up from G to Bb as that would be the actual pitch for say a Eb Sax.
Its worth looking for something similar to this programme otherwise you'll need to write it out in manuscript which can take an age.
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Hey, I have the same problem sorta. I play clarinet and alto sax, i just in time for each sunday morning get the music and manage to do it on the computer but then have no time to play them before sunday so i dont know if they are right or not. then if they arent i have to transpose of the top of my head. i have been playing for 8 years now and can do that fine with transposing but only played sax for a year so i am kinda getting there.
But also my other problem is i play in the anglican and the methodist church so the sound levels are completely wrong in methodist and i then stand away from the mic they turn it up more and have then had people moaning at me because it is to loud.... that shot my confidence through the window
Get all the guitars to de-tune down one fret lol...
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We don't have any guitars anymore I can play it a bit but then i have to juggle, sax,clarinet, and guitar and then a flute....