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Saviour of the World - acoustic rythm
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Gravatar for Steve Griff Steve Griff From St Peters, Hartshorne, Derbyshire
11 April 2010 - 10:18pm
Hi, just back from Spring Harvest, Minehead - superb worship and love the new Ben Cantalon song. However, is it just me that finds it difficult to play the same rythm has Ben whilst singing the song - the syncopation appears to play havoc with my little brain!? I tried to teach this to others in our church worship group but the singers and pianist struggled to keep to the meter/phrasing of the words whilst I played as per the acoustic guitar on the CD. Is there a 'trick' to this or just a matter of 'ability' and/or natural rythm? New to this website - Tim mentioned it during the worship workshop last week (by the way, the drummer was excellent i.e. in terms of explaining and giving some insight into his approach to the songs in question; as a guitarist though I was hoping for similar from the guitarist but I should have known that us guitarists are not that way inclined! :-) i.e. he was more interested in his special effects gadget and referring to be the 'cherry on the cake', and referring to Ben's songs all in some way being influenced by 'O Canada'! :-) LOL.) Many thanks to those who devote so much to Worship and using their gifts to feed others. Steve
Gravatar for gavinball gavinball From Fishponds Baptist Church, Bristol, UK
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12 April 2010 - 4:03pm
hey steve, i get this happen to me sometimes, i think you just need to practice it lots and im sure you will get it. God bless, gav.
Gravatar for Murray McEwan Murray McEwan From Moortown Baptist Church, Leeds
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28 April 2010 - 3:46pm

Hi Steve,

I think that a lot of the time I do this without thinking but where I come accross a tricky rhythm I find it can help me to think about the spaces between the beats, which is kind of what drummers do, I think. I'll often slow it right down and tap out the 4/4 rhythm with my foot then practice the elements separately before 'gluing' them together.

I have just listened to the track for the first time and it sounds to me that Ben is essentially playing 16 beats to the bar whilst the vocal line falls pretty well on the beat - I'm not sure if this will come out on the web page but I think that it is something like this

Guitar 16s - 1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + 5 + 6 + 7 + 8 +
Guitar strokes V ^ V ^ V ^ V ^ V ^ V
Vocals God so loved that he

When applying the accents to the guitar you can do up (^) and down (V) strokes all the time but only sound the ones shown. The singing is either on the beat or on the half beat.

This may or may not be right in this case and may just come accross as gobbledygook - but I hope it helps?

Murray.