There's been a bit of a push lately at York Elim towards alternative expressions of worship, and combining them with the more traditional expression of singing. I can't overstate how keen I am to explore that kind of thing, but my problem is this: whenever we introduce a new thing on a Sunday morning, the congregation is invariably rather reluctant to get involved. For example, one of our worship leaders thought it'd be great for people to share Scriptures that have encouraged/challenged/blessed them while the band continued to play in an attempt to avoid any silences. This would have been great but for the fact that, upon hearing the worship leader explain what he was aiming for, everyone decided to sit down and stare straight ahead, waiting for somebody else to do it instead of them. So it became a lot closer to the 'open mic night' scenario than I'm sure had been originally intended!
I do struggle with how 'consumerist' many people are when it comes to gathered worship, not just here, but over recent years our church members have been experiencing breakthrough and unquestionable liberation in their worship. When I first arrived a little over three years ago I regularly found myself thinking "wow, tough crowd..." whilst I was leading, but thanks to God that is now a rarity. But there is always more to be done. As I write, I wonder if it's a case of trying to do too much too soon, or whether people will begin to 'get it' as we as a leadership keep persevering.
I'd love to know how you guys keep people engaged when you're trying out some 'alternative' forms of worship and how you avoid it turning into a spectator sport by accident. I'd also love to know what ideas you've been experimenting with; what worked and what didn't, etc.?
Thanks!
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Hi Neil,
I'm was in exactly the same boat as the WL in your example, but I approached it from a different direction. Rather than dropping this new thing on the body with no notice, I prepared them a week ahead. I sent an email out on a Monday saying that I'd be leading on the following Sunday and if anyone had anything they would like to bring to let me know so that I could fit everything into their right places in the running order. I then chose some select bits from the psalms that *I* wanted to bring to the meeting and asked some other individuals (who did not have anything specific to bring themselves) to read out during worship.
Once we've done this a couple of times, everyone will be much more comfortable with the mechanics and practicalities of what is going on that we won't need so much advanced planning. Although, having made the request in advance did result in some very well prayed through and spirit filled contributions - so it does have it's advantages.
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I guess it's making everyone familiar with stuff.
I was listening to David Gate talking about when they tried to 'sing a new song' inbetween the running order, or have a bit more spontaneous singing etc, and it was hard at first, but they just said they persevered and things got better and better...
I agree though, people often don't try something that isn't comfortable for them, and that's natural I guess. I suppose you might have had a bit of time to prepare yourself mentally and literally for whatever new thing you want to try, whereas they haven't.
I do like the idea of trialling it in more intimate meetings though...
Joe
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Thanks for the feedback guys. It does seem like preparation is key - both mine and theirs! I just wish people were as free on a Sunday morning as they are at the big events. We had the Northern area Elim festival last month, and it was brilliant...
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be encouraged to try things Neil, big events can be great but local church is different so needs a different approach really.
also even at big events people rarely speak out scriptures spontaneously like you tried do they?
God bless,
gav.
No, you're right - the specific things we try obviously cannot be the same. But the crucial thing is that the willingness appears to be there at larger events as opposed to the weekly meetings.
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hi neil,
thanks for your post, i share many of your frustrations here.
a number of things spring to mind.
1. its common for worship leaders to want more from their congregations. ie more hands raised, more eyes closed, more people clapping/dancing etc. (and yes im guilty of this also) but at the end of the day why do we want this? is it to feel better about ourselves? the worship is for God not us and we cant force people to worship more.
2. how prepared are the congregation for spontaneity? it might seem like a contradiction but actually it isnt. is allowing the congregation to contribute a regular thing? if they are not expecting to be able to say anything they wont come prepared and naturally will sit down and wait for someone else to step out. also you may have to model it first, ie plant people in the congregation to share things to avoid silences when nothing happens.
3. many things like this take time. people generally dont like change, so if you believe GOd is calling you to do this, keep trying it and see what God does in 3-6 months even a yrs time.
recently in our church we did some more low key 'free; services in the evening in august. different people led them, we had prayer stations in some, testimonys in others, people chosing songs in others. some parts of it worked well, others (like some of the old hymns that were picked and sang acapella) were train wrecks, but actually it was good fun trying things, and im sure we can do this again at some point.
hope some of that rambling is helpful?
God bless,
gav.