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Is it biblical to have a worship leader?
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Most teaching on worship assumes that it is biblical to have a worship leader however, recently I have been challenged on this on a number of fronts: 1. In my church we have two Sunday morning services. One is open (ie no worship leader) and the congregation is in theory "led by the Holy Spirit". In general this has been a good move for us (we re-introduced it as a format about 2 years ago) and the worship is usually good. Our other service is led by a worship leader and band. 2. I've been reading some Frank Viola books and he argues that biblical (in the New Testament anyway) is always "open" and never "led". I have looked at some of the bilical material on this...but thought it would be good to throw up as a debate. So here are the questions: 1. Name some bible "worship leaders"? (Old AND New Testament) 2. What bible passages support "open" worship and what passages support "led" worship? 3. How can worship be "led" that allows times for "open" elements in worship? 4. Does the size of cingregation make a difference in this? Jim
5. Where in the Bible does it suggest that having a worship leader is a bad thing?
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Hey Jim, good questions to unpack and get to the bottom of. 1) The temple worship in the OT would have been led, though I'm not aware of any named individuals. There are no named NT worship leaders. There's no evidence that the position of worship leader existed in the NT church. (It can be argued that it didn't exist until 20 or so years ago.) 2) I'm not sure there's any evidence that support either "open" worship or"led" worship. I'm not even sure what the distinction is. Someone still leads open worship, whether they're designated to do it or not. My own assessment of the evidence from the NT is that we have freedom to conduct gathered worship in any way that glorifies God and edifies those gathered, while retaining unity and some degree of order. That might be "open" or "led", or have aspects of both. 3) One way is to create space in a planned set for spontaneous praying or singing. (By spontaneous, I mean, free expression from those who have gathered.) This can work really well. 4) Spontaneity and corporate participation is probably easier in small gathering, but it depends very much on the expectations of the people there. I'd be wary of using an argument from silence (i.e. the Bible doesn't mention worship leaders, therefore they are unbiblical). Using that criteria the Bible is itself unbiblical (!), and so are guitars, Christmas, powerpoint, etc... Of course the postion of worship leader is not without its problems, but there are advantages in having an individual plan and prepare the musical component of gathered worship, just as there are advantages from having one individual plan and prepare the spoken component. My personal preference would be for planned structure that permits time for spontaneous repsonse and expression.
As far as the Old Testament is concerned, I'd bet that David and Solomon were probably worship leaders - along with other writers of the Psalms. Also Moses and Aaron, Joshua, Gideon, etc. They weren't people who stood on a stage and strummed an acoustic guitar, but they were definitely people who led the Israelite's in worship to Yahweh. In the New Testament it's less clear, but after the last supper the Bible records the singing of a hymn (Matt. 26:30, cf Mark 14:26) which I would assume was led by someone - even if it was just say "let's sing [insert hymn name here]". I think it would be safe to assume that it Jesus who led them... Moreover, since Christianity spread outwards from the synagogues, the corporate worship of the early church more than likely took on the form of synagogue worship which was not that far removed from our current expression of church.
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Everything I’ve read about this indicates its one of those grey areas in the bible. I think the bible is largely silent about the structure of congregational/musical worship. We infer things from passages X,Y, and Z but it seems to me that this is an issue for local church leadership to tackle. Given the tendency of Western culture’s hungry response to music (in a general sense), I’d see the benefit of having a worship leader. The culture of concerts and other musical media has a large impact on people these days; so a worship leader is just “speaking the language” in a way, isn’t it? Other people have covered the topic here better than I could have, and I’d concur with the thoughts posted already.
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I'd also agree with the thoughts already posted, particularly Paul's thoughts on how to be led by the Spirit whilst leading worship. Actually, that's the only way, isn't it? Otherwise you're just a musical director leading a series of songs. Worship that's led by the Spirit is wholly biblical (John 4:23-24) but I don't see that that precludes worship being led through humans. In fact that's precisely how God loves to work - through people, mistakes and inadequacies and all!

Whilst there's nothing wrong with times where there's no worship leader and everyone contributes "led by the Spirit" - and I've been in good meetings like that myself - I do wonder how regularly and effectivey "led" it is. Worship is not just a series of favourite songs that "seem right" at that moment. Ideally there needs to be a coherence and direction to the 'journey' that worship is: from where people are to a closer intimacy and celebration with God. In general, it's good to have leaders and to be led by them, even when they make mistakes.

Joe's question is an important one too. The abundance of church 'activities' that don't appear in the Bible have often been mentioned on this forum. If you want to ask "is it biblical to have a worship leader?" it's a good idea at some stage to ask "is it unbiblical to have a worship leader?". Finally, on Paul's point: "It can be argued that it [the role of the worship leader] didn't exist until 20 or so years ago" - more like 40, Paul!

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I agree with all you guys, but for the sake of the argument, I'll clarify what Franck Viola states: he is saying that we have one single, designated person leading the congregation. Again, one person designated to preach. He doesn't see that in the New Testament, where the concept of "service" isn't so present as the concept of "meeting", which basically is a way of boiling church down to it's simplest form, demystifying it of all of its traditional ways of doing things: we don't "do a service", we just meet together as Christians to be together, and do what comes naturally when the people of God gather: some people might have a word to share, a testimony to bring, a song to sing congregationally. It isn't good enough to say that the modern worship leader fulfills that role if he is listening to the Holy Spirit. The point is, according to Viola, that we have given this power to the one single person, leaving the rest of the church as "a flock lead by a human shepherd" at best, and a bunch of spectators at worst. This does indeed seem to be what the early church did, and how it worked. So that's great, and we should acknowledge that, and pick out the things which are still helpful for us today in that way of doing things. But the New Testament never gives imperatives for our form of worship, quite the opposite. I would contend that if Paul were here today, or better still, if Jesus were here today, he would have things to say about our way of conducting worship, inasmuch as it affects our humility. However, the form of it rests on the principle of grace: "So whether you eat or drink or whatever you do, do it all for the glory of God. Do not cause anyone to stumble, whether Jews, Greeks or the church of God— even as I try to please everybody in every way. For I am not seeking my own good but the good of many, so that they may be saved." Paul here is talking about the food regulations, but it applies also to the worship regulations. We have total freedom, with one recommendation: that we do all things in a way that seeks the good of others. So in a culture, as Marc Proctor pointed out, which knows and understands the "codes" of concerts, it is normal that Christianity redeems the concert culture for Christ, filling it with the power of the Holy Spirit, the humility of Christ and the glory of the Father. If there is one person that is in danger due to the contemporary form of worship leading, it is the worship leader, as our practices put us very quickly in a position where it is easy to nurture pride, and difficult to develop a humble heart and a contrite spirit. So let's beware of the plans of the enemy towards our worship leaders, and give them adequate support and accountability, and keep on redeeming our culture for Christ.
"I hate your church gatherings, all your religious stuff displeases me. Away with the noise of your songs, I've had it up to here with your guitars. But let justice roll like a river, fairness like a never ending stream!" (Amos 5.21-24)
I'm not sure I agree with much of what you (and/or Frank Viola) says! Your argument seems to move worryingly towards the abandonment of 'leadership' per se, which is kinda on the slippery slope to church deconstructionism. Also, I'm not sure where the strong evdience is for the forms and structures of early church gathering. I understood there to be very little, in fact.

"The point is, according to Viola, that we have given this power to the one single person, leaving the rest of the church as "a flock lead by a human shepherd" at best, and a bunch of spectators at worst."

That is, in my view, a complete misunderstanding of how church leadership works! Church leaders do not have "power". And leading is not generally the responsibility of one person anyway. Leadership in the church is about servanthood (look at Jesus' leadership) and preferring others, not some sort of power-crazed "do-as-I-say" dictatorship!

God uses people in leadership because it is good to come under the servanthood, authority and God-inspired vision of leaders. Is there a potential issue with leaders in the church mis-using authority? Of course there is! But that is part of the risk God has chosen to take in using humans to help achieve His purposes, becasue ultimately, He wants relationship with people.

PS: If you don't mind me saying so, Nathan (because it's pertinent to the topic), your signature is almost an exact quote from Amos. But it must be taken in the context of what was happening at the time, and not an arbitrary challenge to the 'way we do church'. I'm sure you know this, but it just caught my eye in the light of what we've been discussing!

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In addition to Matt's post, I think the other thing to consider is the new testament directives towards orderly worship. Insofar as there is some freedom to do these things, they are done in an orderly fashion, and a good number of the evangelical and charismatic churches have space for these things... but it's an assigned space, so it doesn't go too far off the rails.

Of the other hints the NT gives about structure and leadership in the early church, there are some which stand out.

Firstly, Peter was put in charge of things by Jesus. The appointment of a leader by the messiah is a fairly decent precedent to follow when it comes to 'doing church'. Additionally, the NT records the leaders Apollos and Cephas etc. indicating some sort of structure in the church.

In the old testament, skilled musicians were appointed to this place of leading the worship.

One final question to ask - bearing in mind the direction the bible gives on orderly worship - is that is it necessary to have the entire church involved in "leading" worship? Is it not entirely possible that the Lord could direct one person in order for them to help direct a congregation? After all, how likely - pragmatically speaking - is it that the whole congregation will all be led by the Spirit to such an extent as leads to orderly worship which is still allowing everyone to 'lead'?

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Jim, a very good question. Something to really think about, as it is a very important topic. From my personal experience I really prefer having a worship leader. Not sure if this is the Biblically correct answer and I will probably be checking out what the Bible has to say, as this is very important. I think we need to keep a dynamic balance in everything. Dead tradition is very boring. Change and variety is the spice of life so not having a leader at times and doing things slightly differently is also great.