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I Know You Love Me (Third Attempt!!!)
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Third attempt at posting this, hopefully it'll work this time!!!! This is a song that is very much in progress so I thought I'd upload it to get it critiqued at an early stage, so please forgive the rough quality and the mistakes.... Have been struggling with a 2nd verse. Not sure if it needs one or not, hence the repeated first verse. As usual any and all comments are welcome! Lyrics are: I find You in the silence where Your voice is so pure I find you in the distance I set myself from You I find You when I'm broken, You're there to make me whole I find you in the longing, in the sighing of my soul But I don't have to hear You whisper I don't have to hear You speak (I) To know You love me Love me so I know You love me, Through and through For why else would You open Your arms And die for me on that cross What other reason could You have To pay the great cost I know You love me, etc Thanks, Alex
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Hi Alex, I really like it just as it is here with the first verse repeated. I could hear it in my head being played with other instrumentation like strings and stuff and think it will sound great. Let us know how it goes down with your congregation. Neil.
Thanks for your comment Neil. Much appreciated. Anyone got any thoughts on lyrics, etc? Are they congregational enough or likely to confuse? Thanks Alex
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1st verse suggestion I find You in the silence, (where) Your voice is so pure I find You in the distance, (I see) Your ways are higher Lord I find You when I'm broken, (where) Your grace is made whole I find you in the longing, in the yearning of my soul See how leaving a little air after the words 'silence', 'distance', and 'broken' gives an impacting effect. Great choice of words there. Then you can sing the verse again after the chorus and install the words in (parenthesis) to add variance. Chorus suggestion (I) To know You love meeeeee so (I) To know You love meeee through and through Bridge Suggestions...Keep this rhetorical, I think it give it some power and emotion. You don't have to answer the question that you are asking. Why did You open Your arms and die for me? Why would trade my shame for death on a tree? Then you could hit an alternate chorus and say... To show You love meeeeee so To show You love meeee through and through We seriously need to add audio comments to this forum...it's hard to convey a melody/syllable-cadence change suggestion without hearing it. Hope this helps a little. -Dan
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This has great potential, Alex. Two things that stick out to me. Firstly, the syllables in line 1 don't seem to sit quite right to me, specifically "I find You in the silence where YOUR voice is so pure". I think you need to transfer the emphasis away from "your". I appreciate you have one more syllable than the second line (which is why that works better). Any way of altering this? Secondly, I guess I'm thinking more about the concepts. I'm not sure the line "I find you in the distance I set myself from You" is quite up there. What does this mean? I think many people would be able to identify with a song that essentially said "You are there in the slience/distance/brokenness/longing", but your lyrics suggest finding God (perhaps seemingly easily?) in those times. I'm not sure I've made myself clear, but I hope you see what I mean. So instead of: I find You in the silence where Your voice is so pure I find you in the distance I set myself from You I find You when I'm broken, You're there to make me whole I find you in the longing, in the sighing of my soul I wonder (purely on a conceptual basis) whether you could say something like: You're here throughout the silence... (something here!) You're near despite the distance I put myself from You You're there when I'm broken, Your Spirit makes me whole I'll find you in the longing, in the sighing of my soul It doesn't scan very well and it's just off the top of my head, but I hope you see what I mean. I just think that there's an opportunity for a great song here which identifies itself with people going through barren times. It may well be that they need a song which affirms that God is there through it, rather than suggesting that God can be easily found in it - becasue that is probably not their experience. Sorry if I've wrecked it with my ramblings!
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Thanks for the comments guys. I really like the idea of changing the lyrics so that people going through hard times can identify with it... My question would be, would the bridge bit then become a bit of a departure from theme, i.e. at the moment the idea of the song is that wherever we are, however near or far we feel God is from us, we can know He loves us because of what he did on the cross. If I change the lyrics, as per Matt's suggestion (which, by the way, I really like), it would be more about how God is always with us through hard times and we know He loves us, but then the part about the cross may become a bit of a sidetrack from the main theme of the song. Does that make sense and are there any thoughts on that? Thanks, Alex
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I'm going to think a bit more on that, Alex. On the one hand I really like the thematic development from the pre-chorus, through the chorus and into the bridge: But I don't have to hear You whisper I don't have to hear You speak To know You love me Love me so I know You love me, Through and through For why else would You open Your arms And die for me on that cross What other reason could You have To pay the great cost On the other hand, I've often held on to the firm belief that God is ALWAYS speaking. And also the lovely little idea that Brad Jersak calls "God's phone number" - Jeremiah 33:3. In other words, if you're going through a barren time and God seems far away and silent, it's not Him who's moved and it's not Him who isn't speaking. We all go through those times, but I wonder just how helpful it is so sing about not needing to hear from him to know His love. Do you see what I mean? As I say, I'm torn because what you say is actually true and a lovely progression of ideas. Hmm.
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I know what you mean. It's something I was thinking about when I started writing the song. The original pre-ch words were: "I don't need to hear You whisper, I don't need to hear You speak To know you love me, etc" I changed them to "I don't HAVE to..." because, although technically not changing the actual meaning, I was hoping it would make it feel more like "It is not necessary to hear God speak in order to know He loves us" That's not to say that we don't need to hear Him speak full stop though! It came from a discussion I had with someone who was upset that she had never had a massive encounter with God in terms of outward expressions, no particular Pentecostal style experience (if you know what I mean? i.e. no tongues of fire, miraculous healings, etc). She has a very strong relationship with God but she was at a point where she felt that maybe she had done something to make God love her less and that that is why she had not experienced Him in the way that others have. I felt it was important to remind people that God has already proved His love through His sacrifice and that we don't NEED all the outward signs to know that He loves us. (Not to say that outward signs are wrong and that we shouldn't have them either mind you!) Hmm (to quote you!), that turned into a longer reply than anticipated!
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hey alex...i really like this. i think it's pretty close. in the first verse, the response to "i find you in the distance" doesn't seem to connect as much as the other 3 call and responses. does that make sense? i love the imagery of God's voice being purest in the silence and making us whole when we're broken....love that....but the 2nd one doesn't seem as strong. also, the chorus seems SOOO close to me....but it's just missing a lift of sorts. maybe even elevating the bridge vocally too? all in all, great honest emotion. good stuff dude. be encouraged!
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Thanks Jeramy, I'll have a look at that. I have been trying to rework the second line to bring it more into the same sort of format as the other lines of the song, I just haven't been able to work it out yet! Again, thanks for your feedback, much appreciated! Alex
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Nice song Alex. I would echo the commentary about the second line, it doesn't quite have the impact or meaning that it could. Keep working on it, revision is a great process (though tiring).