Dave Crow
From St Mungos, Balerno, Edinburgh
26 July 2009 - 10:18pm
Does anyone have experience of using click or backing tracks and if so, how do you maintain spontaneity in worship when using them?
I've never used them before but have considered the option, however fear i would loose the ability to change the plan should the Spirit lead 'on the night'.
Thoughts...
Dave
irish_admiral
From Cardiff Vineyard
27 July 2009 - 9:27am
If you're talking about a backing track to support a worship leader, personally, i'd not bother for the very reason you're concerned about: it's akin to just using a CD as you can't vary the track.
Metronomes... fine... just give it to the drummer though in his monitor.
Joe
"One, two, three, here we go..."
www.myspace.com/josephhargreaves
Thanks Joe.
I'd be particularly interested to hear from Tim or Al as I know they use them at the Worship Central gigs. I also understand Tim used both click / backing tracks at CLAN Gathering in St. Andrews last week.
I'm aware this might sound like I'm stirring but i just don't understand how the two can go together.
Blessings
Dave
On the weekend I attended a live cd/dvd recording where they were using a click track. But I think for that setting it's different from just a normal worship service. All the lights and cameras and music obviously all had to be in sync and all ran according to the click track. It was rehearsed many many times. So they weren't going for the on-the-spot-spirit-led thing, but for the everything-perfect-according-to-plan option. But before that I've never seen it used, and personally would definitely prefer not to... takes too much planning anyway ;p
Backing tracks, never seen them used. can't be so fun though... wouldn't like to use them.
grant
Dave
Yeah, i'd probably use them for something where you're not looking to vary it, and everyone knows where the song is going.
For normal worship in church? Wouldn't bother.
Joe
"One, two, three, here we go..."
www.myspace.com/josephhargreaves
Hmmm. Me and my pet guitarist were planning to use a drum machine for a few songs at one evening service, just to see if it can be done. Select a nice gentle Latin rhythm on the Alesis SR16 and see what happens. Part of the reason for wanting to do it is because someone asked us not to do so (we want to challenge preconceptions, and show what _can_ be done - we are not looking for a toe-to-toe argument!)
The guitarist does not like things to get stale, so is always mixing things up. He recently complained that he was asked to sing a solo yet again during communion . . . . for the 3rd time in about 5 months . . . .
WEll, I was at Clan Gathering and the worship seemed pretty open to the leading of the Spirit. I'm pretty sure that they weren't using backing tracks, maybe click tracks but they both seemed to be open to the various turns the Spirit took them on, and the worship over the whole week was brilliant.
How on earth would you know that a band were using a click track just by looking at them? I know some rock and pop bands play to click tracks when touring - sometimes they have LED metronomes near their monitors. Not sure how you'd know otherwise.
Matt
I wouldn't, equally I wouldn't know by looking at them that they weren't using a click track, hence my comments above. i.e. I'm pretty sure that they weren't using backing tracks but have no idea if they were using a click track or not hence the word maybe.
Guess I was really asking Grant - sorry!
Matt
Hey Matt
Fair question...
I know because I cheated ;)
I spoke to the guitarist sometime before the recording and he told me that's what they were doing...
But there was some sort of count in that I could hear before every song... and it wasn't the drummer.
grant
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